"I have posted a refutation of this… rubbish at my site. Come and debate me if you fell up to the challenge."
And you're the first to try this mr. christopher columbus? dude, it's already established that atheists are loony morons who can't think straight. look at the dumb comments here: http://toparguments.tk
You're simply denying 2+2 in whatever form it is, complex or not. Simply: atheists are biased hypocrites who DONT care about truth, and often are deluded into thinking they do. So hell no, not after 1000 arguments already (very repetitve) from atheists, all showing themselves to be futile morons, will i keep listening to no end to your supposed refutations. Get a life, stop denying the obvious and stop being a self righteous hypocrite, and sad for u, the key is Jesus, you must worship your God, and not your corrupt lowlife self. Otherwise: absolutely go to Hell. You're a moron who judges by mere appearances. When u see Jesus u AUTOMATICALLY think "stupid". Which means: YOU ARE STUPID, because u judge with presumption and based on what simply sounds absurd. In other words, your nonsensical and shallow. Goodbye guy who judges by assumptions and names.
Notice how is he is obviously projecting his own attributes upon me. He makes absurd, sweeping generalizations about atheists (with no proof beyond his own assertions), and then tells me that I'm a "guy who judges by assumptions and names". Mental projection 101. Not to mention that irony of him telling me to get a life when he's the one who's written over 700 posts that all boil down to, "UR STUPID IF U DONT AGREE WITH EVERYTHIN I SAYZ!!!" And how am I the self-righteous hypocrite? I'm not the one who thinks that he's part of "The Elect", Danny boy; that bullshit is what you believe. My, he sure did interpret a lot into one sentence, didn't he? But lo, it gets even more entertaining.
oh and, you read a refutation. you cant refute facts. ur the type that thinks, "no indirect evidence isnt evidence, now read MY INDIRECT EVIDENCE" as if that's ultimate proof. No moron you cant make the bible contradict if it doesnt OR REALITY. Your like a moron Christian who says oh see it says dont lie, but here's a lie in the bible! yet keeps calling yourself a Christian! NO "CHRISTIAN" GOD DOESNT LIE, NO "ATHEISTS WHO IS FOR REALITY, YOU CANNOT MAKE REALITY CONTRADICT". SEA FOSSILS ON LAND MORON. SAY THAT TO YOURSELF OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER TILL YOU WASH THE BRAINWASH OUT OF YOUR SILLY MIND. SEA FOSSILS ON LAND, MOUNTAIN TOPS, ALL OVER OF THE WORLD, STOP BEING A MASSIVE MORON. SEE THE GRAND CANYON? THAT WASNT MADE BY MAGIC IDIOT. Stop with the arbitrary "well dur one day der waf an ocean here, n den uh dur one day an ocean was here, oh and here too, uh dur and uh yeah dey werent not at same times, dat why uh dey all have fossils on da land" HUH:?
NOT ALL THE SAME TIME THATS WHY YOU FIND THEM ALL IN THE SAME PLACE? THE HELL? SO ON TOP AND IN THE GROUND ALL OVER ISNT EVIDENCE OF A FLOOD? ARE YOU RETARDED?
NOT ALL THE SAME TIME THATS WHY YOU FIND THEM ALL IN THE SAME PLACE? THE HELL? SO ON TOP AND IN THE GROUND ALL OVER ISNT EVIDENCE OF A FLOOD? ARE YOU RETARDED?
This is the best one, as far as I'm concerned. I especially love his crushing arguments for a young earth. Sea fossils on land are explained very simply through continental rifting and tectonic plate movements; some plates are subducted under the other, and thus go underwater. Likewise, fossilized sea creatures on mountain tops is explained the same way (see "orogeny"). "NOT ALL THE SAME TIME THATS WHY YOU FIND THEM ALL IN THE SAME PLACE?" Danny boy, if you could cite an actual instance where organisms from say, the modern era were found deposited in the same layer as a T. Rex, you just might have something. As it is, you have straw-men and an abysmal ignorance of geology. From your spelling, grammar, and tone, I'd say that you're either some pissed off little pre-adolescent or someone operating on the same developmental level. And how does Danny boy explain the fossils that died in desert, or tropical environment, sans water? Hmm? Yeah, that's what I thought. "SEE THE GRAND CANYON? THAT WASNT MADE BY MAGIC IDIOT." Once again; projection. Geology has proven that the Grand Canyon was formed by erosion over several million years. The creationist alternative? A magical, invisible man-god named Yahweh got pissed off at mankind for killing each other, so he decided to solve the issue in the most humane, rational manner possible; by killing all of them. However, a drunken 93 year old by the name of Noah was spared because he was a straight kid who didn't run around in the da hood, so God made him build a giant--barge? Boat? Well, it's ripping off Gilgamesh so who cares?--to survive a flood he was sending. Oh, and this was the first time anyone had seen rain, so I guess that humans were also cannibals. So the whole earth is flooded, and the flood magically erodes a long, narrow canyon--without affecting the surrounding area (this flood could cancel the laws of physics, I guess). So yeah, you're one who believes in magic, Danny boy; except that your name for it is "GOD".
And now for his final bit of hand-waving (this shit is great!);
moron did you notice ive already said ive been through all your supposed refutations? these arent things i wrong out of the blue, they are responses to dimwits like yourself who come up with shit out of the blue, get that? it says FOR BEGINNERS MORON, OK? BEGINNEEERS. See how clues you fucking are? And dingbat, did you notice the list of books dingbat? So what you do mean asshole, "up to the challenge" like ive never done any thinking or work idiot? Notice my journal is filled with links? Idiot? Arrogant casual smug ass troll? DUR? DO I LIKE LIKE I NEVER HEARD MORONS LIKE U?
NOTICE THE TOP ARGUMENTS MORON?
NOTICE MY BIO WHICH SAYS IVE BEEN READING UR SHIT FOR YEARS?
20 YEARS IDIOT.
500 DOCUMENTED ARGUMENTS OF MY OWN, NOTICE ALSO THE LIST OF CONTRADICTION REFUTING SITES?
U R AN OBLIVIOUS MORON WHO WAVES OFF ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOUR FEELINGS, YOU AR EA SHAMEFUL IDIOT A LOWLIFE. You're a dismissive arrogant narcissist idiot.
Listen to how dumb you are, "no dat rubbish bible say not lie, dat is bad to not lie" HUH!?
Grow up stupid. The Bible says to ignore arguments of ignorance, and ur obviously one massive moron.
NOTICE THE TOP ARGUMENTS MORON?
NOTICE MY BIO WHICH SAYS IVE BEEN READING UR SHIT FOR YEARS?
20 YEARS IDIOT.
500 DOCUMENTED ARGUMENTS OF MY OWN, NOTICE ALSO THE LIST OF CONTRADICTION REFUTING SITES?
U R AN OBLIVIOUS MORON WHO WAVES OFF ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT AGREE WITH YOUR FEELINGS, YOU AR EA SHAMEFUL IDIOT A LOWLIFE. You're a dismissive arrogant narcissist idiot.
Listen to how dumb you are, "no dat rubbish bible say not lie, dat is bad to not lie" HUH!?
Grow up stupid. The Bible says to ignore arguments of ignorance, and ur obviously one massive moron.
LOL, the guy who really thinks that he knows more than 99.99% of all scientists--despite having no scientific credentials whatsoever--is calling me an "arrogant [N]narcissist idiot", when he fits that bill perfectly. Me? Oh, I've probably been a tad arrogant at times--but never to the extent of thinking that I am superior to most humans, as I'm a "Chosen One". I also love how all three e-mails are just loud, stupid, obnoxious straw-man rants--provoked by one sentence. Danny is in an advanced state of Dunning/Kruger; any challenge of his imaginary authority, no matter how small, threatens his ego and requires immediate attention. Like I've said elsewhere; to be a YEC is to engage in the most convoluted mental gymnastics possible, and requires either an willingness to lie, or a grade-school level ignorance of science. Dunning/Kruger, anyone? And deep down, Danny boy knows how truly inept he is; otherwise, he wouldn't be so afraid to come debate me. But, by conceding cowardice, he merely adds to my amusement, though at the same time I must confess myself to be slightly disappointed. I'd really hoped to gain a fundy troll to demonstrate the veracity of my accusations against YECs and fundies after each new post. Oh well. There are plenty of fish in the sea.
Yep. I sent three e-mails of my own, after which I blocked him, since I don't feel like risking a computer virus, or having to clear my page of 50 hate mails.
ReplyDeleteI took a quick look. Psychopath.
ReplyDeleteI tell you, BR - the older I get, the more convinced I become that these people are simply genetic flotsam. People like John and Hector Avalos, who come from that world, want so desperately to believe that the friends and relations they left behind will someday join them out here in relatively sane reality. In the vast majority of cases, it isn't going to happen; they're simply incapable of it. I suppose I should feel compassion for them, but they're such utter garbage that I find it impossible.
People consider me awful for advocating that they be quarantined and prohibited from reproducing. I think it's rather generous of me not to argue that their continued existence constitutes a drain on our dwindling resources (and yes, I know whom I sound like, and no, I don't care).
Here's a an article he linked to:
ReplyDeleteWhy Is Hell Forever?
What a piece of drek (and I don't just mean the article).
I'm telling you, if some enterprising geneticist were to design a virus that homed in on the fundie genotype and rendered them all sterile, he'd be doing humanity the greatest service ever done it in terms of its continuity. He might literally save civilization.
I don't know about genetics. I think it's really just a matter of childhood environment and conditioning. When I look back on it, I think part of my deconversion was contingent on outside influences I was exposed to that didn't pay lip service to the Jewish Lich Cult, and that gave me the impression that morality wasn't necessarily reserved for christians. I also established, through books and movies, a genuine distrust of authority figures who claim to know everything, so once I found the mass murder and insanity of the old testament, it was really just a matter of time before I questioned the morality of the being behind it. Most fundies were better programmed than me. They just lived in one spot, went to one church regularly, and were brainwashed on a weekly or daily basis. I, on the other hand, traveled with my family a lot, so church was something that occurred rarely.
ReplyDeleteWhen I look back on it, I think part of my deconversion was contingent on outside influences I was exposed to that didn't pay lip service to the Jewish Lich Cult, and that gave me the impression that morality wasn't necessarily reserved for christians.
DeleteYou know my response to that - you won the genetic lottery.
BTW, please don't call it a Jewish death cult. I know a lot of former Christians do. I am NO apologist for Judaism, but Christianity is the result of centuries of pagan influence, beginning very early on.
Judaism set the stage with messianic fervor, I grant you - but it separated very early on and after that, it was one lunatic after another.
Well, I used to call it the Jewish Zombie Cult, since Jesus was basically a magical Jewish messiah (whose miracles, for some reason, were either ignored or misinterpreted by the Pharisees that supposedly knew the Torah backwards). However, upon closer examination, Jesus is more like a Lich, which was a powerful sorcerer or king who performed a magic ritual binding their soul to their body so that they would never die. That's why I now call it the Jewish Lich Cult, but rest assured, I'm not intimating any connection with Judaism or Jews; the two religions are entirely separate. In fact, I'm planning to do a post pointing out the differences soon.
DeleteOh, is that what Lich means? I thought it might be a term you made up, like "emo hell", or something college kids say today. I was too lazy to look it up.
DeleteYeah, I'm really into folklore. I'm probably one of the few college students alive who can tell you about the Baba Yaga and her skull-fenced chicken leg house, or who will kill who when Ragna Rok rolls around. Or describe the habits of various types of Romanian vampires, including one nasty specimen named the "Varcolac", who can eat the sun and moon and cause eclipses.
DeleteBut yes, Daniel is a piece of drek. People like him are extremely sad to me. One thing I find especially pathetic is his "refutation" of Carl Sagan, where his only real criticism of Sagan is that he's "nerdy". Likewise, in my post "Completely Destroying Fundamentalism In One Giant Post", I dissect not only his creationism, but his incoherent support for geocentrism. It gets really painful at the end.
ReplyDeleteOur creationist explanation of origins would suggest that rabbits, being more mobile than dinosaurs, would have a better chance of escaping the rising floodwaters. Thus we would predict that rabbit fossils would be found higher up in the ‘geological column’ than dinosaurs. And I believe this to be the case, unless you know different.
ReplyDeletehttp://onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com/2012/06/can-you-overdose-on-irony-or-ignorance.html
Ironic that the blogpost you link to is entitled, "Narcissism, Psychopathy and Anti-social Personality Disorder". I'm convinced the vast majority of them - and this guy, without question - are suffering from the latter.
DeleteYer man doesn't do irony, not in the least.
ReplyDeleteAs I said in the header, can you overdose on the stuff?
But as you say, it's all of them, how many times have you heard the creationist argument on the origin of the Universe/life on Earth 'You can't get something from nothing'?
As opposed to ?
I've heard so many times that I tune out when I hear it, because I know that whatever comes next will just be more question-begging, special-pleading bullshit. It all comes down to what we know, and what we don't know, and if the world's top physicists understand the origins of the universe (i.e., the conditions prior to the Big Bang), then nobody else does. That's why theism is just a crutch for the frightened and ignorant.
DeleteI love when a creationist says sea life on top of mountains proves world wide flood. I always ask them what type of sea life fossils do you think are on top of a mountain? Whales? Dolphins? Or is it extinct marine life such as ammonites?
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